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Old 07-22-2008, 09:06 PM
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Hacker on HuntingBC and Huntshoot

OK just a bit of info to calm everyone down.

I know who the hacked HBC and caused trouble with Huntshoot. His father contacted me tonight. He is computer has been taken away and I don't think we'll be hearing from him in a long time. He's just a 15 year old kid and I don't think he understood the magnitude of the problems, money and time he was causing. I spoke with his father who was mortified to find out what his son was up to and promised me he would look after things from his end. I told him that I was fine with him dealing with it and this would put an end to worrying about the site being hacked again.

That being said, I don't want to hear anyone else threatening on HBC or trying to find him. In my mind it's a done deal. Lets move on and start thinking of the fall to come.
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:14 PM
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Marc, I assume you posted this on HBC as well. I haven't seen it yet. Good News all around.
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:20 PM
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Just a word of caution to everyone to not let down their guard. While this fellow may be corralled there are plenty of other hackers out there.

Any links to this forum will always start as: "http://huntshoot.coastangler.com" If there is ANY other info in front of the address DO NOT click the link.

Also neither myself or any of the other mods or admin will ever send you an email or PM asking for your log-in info.
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:36 PM
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I am very limited in my computer knowledge and have no interest in learning more as I have far too many serious books to read, mountains to explore and guns to shoot, not to mention trying to maintain the Canadian culture that so many of my people bled and died for in the 20thC. alone.

So, my question to the learned computer folks here is WTF is "hacking" and HOW can some 15 yr. old punk kid damage a site like this one? Obviously, this is a major concern and I am just curious as to what can/could be done to prevent this in future?

There is SO little inter-communication among genuine Canadian gun people, that is not utterly riddled with infantile, "militia groupie" drivel about "black guns" and totally false comments about Canadian history, that I would hate to see this site damaged by some little badazz. When I was 15, computers were a military and "spacerace" mystery AND if a kid had DARED to do something like this, well, my old man just would get his piece of hockey stick or garden hose and you LEARNED....'course, compared with what they had seen in France, Italy, the North Atlantic, etc., even that was pretty minor...and you DID learn!

Too much false liberalism and pampering of kids now and the frequent killings and assaults upon innocent people, as in the female bus driver in Port Moody, reported on Global TV a couple hours ago, are the result. I remember a Canada and a Vancouver, where guns were as commonplace as jackknives and shootings as rare as honest politicians....NOW, a politician with a background in communist activities CAN and IS attempting to disarm ALL Canadians and he was not even born here.

To quote a fabulous Cree folksinger, Buffy St. Marie, "my country, 'tis of thy people, you're dying"....food for thought, eh?

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Old 07-22-2008, 09:51 PM
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So, my question to the learned computer folks here is WTF is "hacking" and HOW can some 15 yr. old punk kid damage a site like this one?


He set up a link to a page that simulated the look of our forum. The first thing that came up was a "you are not logged in" notice and it prompted you to enter your user name and password. Once he had your info he could log in as you and change all your settings such as email and password and then assume your identity. If he somehow managed to get the passwords off a mod or admin he could actually get in the system and really raise hell.
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:58 PM
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NOW, I see what was going on earlier today, after I came home from my training hike. One of the guys was enquiring about buying one of my rifles and the site kept logging me out....must have been this little pr*ck.

Well, if he ws MY kid, he would be doing the household chores and would PAY for his antics by earning some cash and sending it to you. I firmly believe that kids of 15 should be responsible for what they do....they CAN go hunting, so, they should act like young adults, not dorks.
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Old 07-23-2008, 07:52 AM
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hopefully its not the guy pretending to be the kids father that was doing the hacking and only contacted you in fear of being caught

is there anything the Police can do? i understand its dealt with but letting someone know the damage he's done
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:56 AM
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Marc from HBC told me he is 100% sure of the father's identity. That is good enough for me.
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Old 07-23-2008, 05:31 PM
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At 15 yrs of age i had a job and my gun collection was expanding nicely!!
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:18 PM
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At 15 yrs of age i had a job and my gun collection was expanding nicely!!


at 15 i was a troubled youth,
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:55 PM
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as marc said......it's a done deal and taken care of. Just goes to show we need to watch for this kind of stuff. Identity theft is a serious problem
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15 years old?? In less than a year this lad will have the ability to drive a motor vehicle and be responsible for the lives and safety of many. Don't make excuses for this kid. Unless there is a mental disability that would excuse his actions? By handling it in the fashion that you have you have made an arbitrary decision for all of us, some may agree with it some may not. You are truely NOT doing this young offender any favours by letting it go, you have enabled his behaviour and have taught him nothing. Sometimes doing the right thing is a tough choice to make. His actions took much forethought and deliberate efforts on his part, he knew exactlly what he was doing! Again don't make excuses for the poor (only15) kid. A crime was committed and it appears you have let it go? If you saw a person being assaulted would you look/walk the other way? This too is not a victimless crime, it must be dealt with in an appropriate way. Don't take offence to this opinion as I have strong feelings on this subject and have seen far far to many young people end up in serious trouble because of this very thing (excused behaviour).

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I know who the hacked HBC and caused trouble with Huntshoot. His father contacted me tonight. He is computer has been taken away and I don't think we'll be hearing from him in a long time. He's just a 15 year old kid and I don't think he understood the magnitude of the problems, money and time he was causing. I spoke with his father who was mortified to find out what his son was up to and promised me he would look after things from his end. I told him that I was fine with him dealing with it and this would put an end to worrying about the site being hacked again.

That being said, I don't want to hear anyone else threatening on HBC or trying to find him. In my mind it's a done deal. Lets move on and start thinking of the fall to come.
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Old 07-24-2008, 04:36 PM
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well said MooseCaller,
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:14 PM
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The problem with kids today is they are being raised by the T.V and Computors..Most young lads of yester-years like myself spent our free time camping fishing hunting or working at 15 years of age..
Times sure have changed..Glad he was caught and hope he learns from his mistake..A little soft maybe but in a age where kids sue parents for lickin's it's about as good as it will prolly get.
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How can he learn from his mistake there was vertually no consequence for his "mistake". A little soft? He got away with a crime! Kids sueing parents for a lickin' it doesn't happen in Canada anyway, this is just another excuse to not discipline your kids, why do we insist on making excuses for poor parenting? And; this is probably as good as it gets? Another sit on the fence attitude that has caused all the problems we are facing now with our youth. Where is the outrage? Where is our sense of injustice that we have seen handed out here? Have the times really changed so much that we are willing to let crimes go unpunished simply because it's too sensitive or too much trouble to get invovled? Are we content to turn a blind eye and chalk it up to someone else's problem? Has the youth of today have us living in fear to do anything to correct their negative behaviours that we do nothing? Hey people you were violated here, are you satisfied to just "let it go" on the word of one person saying it's OK? Where is our input? It is because of these continuing attitudes that we find ourselves here today.


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The problem with kids today is they are being raised by the T.V and Computors..Most young lads of yester-years like myself spent our free time camping fishing hunting or working at 15 years of age..
Times sure have changed..Glad he was caught and hope he learns from his mistake..A little soft maybe but in a age where kids sue parents for lickin's it's about as good as it will prolly get.

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