For Immediate Release

2008ENV0036-000478

April 4, 2008
Ministry of Environment

TWO MEN ORDERED TO PAY $8,750 FOR WILDLIFE OFFENCES

MACKENZIE – B.C. resident Bryan Martin and Alberta resident Mark Greenlee pleaded guilty to Wildlife Act offences in a Mackenzie courtroom last week.

Martin was charged with knowingly making a false statement to a conservation officer. Greenlee was charged with hunting big game while not a resident, knowingly making a false statement to a conservation officer and unlawful possession of wildlife.

Both men received fines and were ordered to pay penalties totalling $8,750. Greenlee was ordered to pay $3,750 and Martin was ordered to pay $5,000. The Habitat Conservation Trust Fund will receive $8,500 of the penalties paid.

In addition to the monetary penalties, Greenlee has been ordered not to hunt in B.C. for a period of two years and to forfeit the seized wildlife (a grizzly bear, mountain goat and a caribou).

This investigation resulted from an inspection on a guide outfitter camp located in northern B.C., near the Kemess mine. The Mackenzie Conservation Officer Service determined a number of documents had been altered with regard to the wildlife harvested.

The maximum penalty for a first offence conviction under the B.C. Wildlife Act is $50,000 or imprisonment for a term of six months, or both.

The B.C. government will introduce changes this spring to the Wildlife Act that will include tough new penalties to prevent and punish poaching and killing of endangered species.

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Can someone clarify if this is the Bryan Martin of Canadian Mountain Outfiitters?

if he is a professional guide his fine should be a lot higher and maybe loose his guiding lic .

yes it is.

Steven

I wonder if he was a licensed guide, or an outfitter? I agree that a licensed guide should have his license revoked, and territory put up for bids. If a $5000 fine is all, they can more than make that up in one guided non-resident hunt. An outfitter should be given a stiffer penalty as well, as they know better. What's the point of having a maximum $50,000 fine if they never even get close to it in these kind of cases?

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For anyone interested, YES, this is the famous Bryan Martin, a favourite GO of the big-name American gun writers and an American, himself.

This is his SECOND conviction within less than TWO YEARS as he was convicted in summer, 2006, of offences involving res. requirements. He seems to think that HE is somehow very special and can ignore B.C. laws at his desire and then pay a piddling penalty for making HUGE profits on OUR wildlife.

Martin should be DEPORTED as we do NOT need his type in B.C/Canada. I also firmly believe that it is time to ban all foreign hunting/angling in B.C. and to consider doing this throughout Canada. I also want to see ONLY Canadians allowed to hold any investment in or control over B.C. GO concessions and ALL of the current gang of foreigners involved kicked out, right freakin' now!

Martin is NOT the only Yankee who is screwing over our hunting and they do not belong here.

Who are these "big-name american gun writers". Let's drop them a line.
Just went on his web site & he confesses that "he has become one of the most RESPECTED outfitters in B.C."
Agree with the latter half of your post Kutenay, but we can't even get murderers deported.
Just like the drug trade. The profits outweigh the fines!

Martin is from Oregon, lived and sold real estate in Montana and has a LOT of friends in the "Montana clique" on 24Hr. Campfire. These people actually threatened me and another B.C. hunter from the P.G. area because we bluntly stated that Martin IS a thief and a poacher, of course, this was typical Yankee big talk as any such shenanigans from any American here would be hardly the sort of thing to enhance his reputation.

Martin sent e-mails to one of the worst offenders and this guy then posted that Mike from P.G. and I would, blah, blah, blah, if we dared to tell Martin, in person, what we thought of him. So, we logged off 24Hr. due to the very offensive comments made by various Yanks about us, B.C., Canada and our RIGHT to control OUR resources.....anybody remember "softwood" and the treaty-breaking Yanks, who now say WE are selfish because we dare to protest against their "right"to hunt HERE!!!!!

So, while the fulminations go on and Martin is lauded as a guy just slightly less saintly than George Washington, largely by the same group of Montanans who are bankers, mortgage brokers and other such expert mountain men, Martin CONTINUES to operate here in B.C. and sells OUR sheep, Grizzlies, Moose and so forth to big, important gun writers and their pals.

Some who have hunted with him include Ron Spomer, John Barsness and some others who make big bux writing about killing OUR game, yet, when was the last article written by a B.C. res. hunter published in their self-aggrandizing magazines? I am bloody tired of this and it has gone on for years, we Canadians are second-class citizens in OUR OWN LAND.

I will be doing an article and hope to have it published in various Canadian media outlets and will be phoning the M.O.E. in Victoria, AGAIN, demanding that Martin get turfed from "his"GO concession, forthwith. If, that doesn't work, well, I spent many years working/living alone in many of the most remote parts of B.C. and I might decide to "blockade" Martin's operation AND let Global TV know that this is happening.

I am not as pessimistic as some with respect to dealing with scum like Martin and the rich Yanks who support this travesty of natural justice in B.C. Very simply, I would FAR rather see the local Indians kill 2-3 Moose per year for their families than see these fatass, loud mouthed, know-it-all foreign poachers kill even one.

Whose province is this, anyway, why do we allow the Martin type here?

How many times has he gotten away with it. They probably laughed leaving the courtroom saying how cheap it was to walk away!

Down in the US the locals would have shot him!

As a fishing guide, I would not be allowed to renew my guide licence if I had any infractions under the wildlife act? Let alone 2 of them? How does this work???? Is this slipping through the cracks some how? I'm sure the CO's have gotten tired of this guy and would be trying to do everything they can to stop him?
http://www.qp.gov.bc.ca/statreg/sta...1.htm#section25
Lots of rules in the wildlife act that he has obviously broken.
I just don't understand

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The various posters on 24Hr., who claim Martin as both a friend and as a real mountain man, a farce if I ever saw one, flatly stated that our COs are ...vindictive...toward Martin, the other BC outfitters in the region are out to get him as he is so much more capable/successful than they are and our BC courts/bureaucrats are essentially biased against Americans and corrupt....... So, you see, it's all REALLY our fault! Poor Bryan, what a misunderstood little boy!

When 7STW and I objected to this, we were castigated by the moderator and the site owner as I have been previously for daring to state that WE OWN B.C. and WE will decide whether or not Americans or other foreigners can/cannot hunt here.

The Montanas/Alaskans were allowed to call us various ugly names and even threaten us, so, 7STW and I decided that we had had enough of 24Hr. and decamped. I regret this in a sense as there are a LOT of really fine Yanks there, however, I have had enough crap about Canada and am tired of wasting time explaining FACTUAL history to unlettered wannabe imbeciles who would not last a single night alone in the B.C. bush.

It's really ironic, posters there can make ANY ugly remark about Moslems, French-Canadians, other "Canookians" as they often call us and our military and NOTHING is said by the moderator or owner; yet, if you presume to mention historically documented situations in THEIR country, well, zappo, you are one bad dude....how typically American and truely pathetic.

As far as I am concerned, after the "softwood" debacle and the arrogant Yankee refusal to recognize OUR sovereignity over the Northwest Passage plus the frequent situations with American-owned GO outfits of the same type as Martin, I would prefer to ban them from ANY hunting/fishing here, permanently. Harsh, well, look at what they do to us, their "friends"....

I took the time to go to the 24hr site and am disapointed I took the time..it degraded into a rude and ugly name calling and friend versus "facts"

problem is you can be charged with stealing nails,shingles, drywall, windows..etc etc etc or stealing a "home" I have enough experience in court in life and in familly(numerours laywers in house.. )and have seen questionable calls made by CO'S and ones that made sense..I was Not THERE HOWEVER when 2 seperate scenarios unfold with charges and convictions occurr it starts to quack and walk like a duck..well???

As owner operator he has ALL the reponsibility to know ALL THE RULES and obey..the penalty CAN BE losing his livlihood...what he did was CLEARLY wron even by "his admission " to his friend via e-mail IF that is indeed his words..

he admits he repeatadly knew and did wrong..

I watched CANADIAN assistant guides cause their boss many times those fines for their "shennanigans" HOWEVER I also have personally witnessed Consrvation officers state ALL those hunters over there are breaking the law...my job is to catch them and punish them...a piss poor way to enter any encounter with recreational anglers and hunters..

So ????/I dont know this individual however as HEAD of the outfit he has repeatadly DECIDED not to come forward when he knew he had violated Canadian law..and ignorance is no excuse..its his JOB to know ALL the rules so his clients dont lose out due to his lack of knowlege..

H ehad his first chance ..and now his second chance..he should be losing his area...

The discussion on 24 hr was neither helpful or polite..it was deroggatory and offensive...

As owner operator his reponsibilities reach a higher level than some rookie hunter...

my.02

Steven

That type of degradation of a topic is characteristic of 24Hr. and the biased moderator is among the worst offenders; he is also a total jerk in dealing with Canadians, as are a number of the others there. While this does not matter here on this site, it is important to recognize that these Yanks actually believe that they have a RIGHT to influence our resource management decisions AND to harvest our resources, as they see fit.

The type of shenanigans that Martin has been involved in are MUCH more commonplace than many realize and it simply comes down to, WHY allow this, now, when so much of OUR hunting is on LEH?

I do not want to belabour this point, however, I am convinced that WE are losing OUR hunting as a result of guys like Martin and I think that very strict regulation of BC-GO concessions/licences is a major way to prevent this. The insulting comments on that site really do demonstrate what so many Yanks seem to think about B.C. and I see no valid reason to allow such people access to our ever decreasing resources, it's that simple.

I just watched a video that showed several of his hunts and show cased his sister. I was disappointed to read this as he was part of a very well established hunter and video maker. If anyone is interested watch Jack Brittingham’s Ultimate Hunting For North American Big Game VI. Maybe it is time to e-mail Jack himself and mention who he show cased in one of his movies.

Having grown up in North Eastern BC and having family that have owned and operated numerous territory's for over 50 years...this absolutely disgusts me. Caught once and fined maybe forgivable but a second infraction in 2 years...gross. Also it has to do with Grizzly and we have no damn tags and limited LEH as it is. A outfitter is given a certain amount of tags and he abuses it. Terrible.

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Further to this issue, I just checked the MOE website to see what changes to the Wildlife Act the current government enacted last month. Guess what, it seems to me as though they have made the situation BETTER for GOs and EASIER for foreigners to operate GO concessions here in B.C.......

Well, that is about what I expected and it is time to start a campaign to eliminate foreign ownership.investment/influence in B.C. hunting, fishing and other resource harvesting situations. The GOABC told me almost two weeks ago that they would respond to my enquiries concerning Bryan Martin thought their "ethics" committee and they have NOT done so; it is time to get tough and protect OUR rights and OUR resources!